Tuesday, June 24, 2008

Plaid Cymru not nationalist enough?

The internal politics of Plaid Cymru really puzzles me sometimes...
PLAID CYMRU has approved the launch of a new “party within a party” aimed at arguing the case for an independent Wales.

The Independence Initiative, which will be officially announced later in the summer, is the brainchild of Plaid MP Adam Price, who says it is essential that the party’s long-term aspiration is articulated for the benefit of a new generation.

Although the new group has been endorsed by Plaid’s national executive, some in the party’s hierarchy are likely to see it as an unwelcome distraction. Opinion polls consistently show support for Welsh independence hovering at little more than 10% of the population. Only last month a poll said only 25% of Plaid supporters favoured independence, with nearly twice as many preferring a Scottish-style Parliament with law-making powers.

...a separatist party which is dividing into pro and "we're not quite sure about it, but certainly not yet"-independence wings?

5 comments:

Hen Ferchetan said...

I think the split, if there is one, is more of a

a) Let's shout about it
b) Let's get a Parliament first, one step at a time

Of course, much more likely is that this is the party's way to placify their core supporters who want independence discussed all the time without turning off the independence-sceptic valleys voters.

Unknown said...

That sounds about right. One of my friends was originally from the Welsh Valleys and the last thing she would want is Independence. She takes the line that the whole idea of UK breakup (and Devolutionary Separatism) is driven by idiot politicians and lunatic extremists.

I take the attitude that it's probably too late now, the "idiot politicians" and their mindless Anglophobia have now set us on a course from which it will be difficult to deviate.

Hen Ferchetan said...

"mindless Anglophobia"

Oh yes of course, the only reason people want independence is because they hate England so much

(damn, there's no roll eyes smilie here!)

Unknown said...

OK, fair point. You can want independence just for its own sake. I have no problem with that.

But you have to admit there's also more than a touch of Anglophobia amongst your "fellow travellers", or how else do you explain the various "Settler Watch" groups in both Wales and Scotland?

Hen Ferchetan said...

"Settler watch" - What are they, something like badger watch?

The only thing I can imagine being close to a "Settler Watch" is Cymuned, a group formed to protect the Welsh language in it's heartlands. (The important word there being "language" not "race" i.e. they want the people moving in to learn Welsh - is that anti-England?)