Monday, August 27, 2007

Sticking to the Inconvenient Facts

Just to prove that it’s not only the BBC who are capable of spinning statements out of all recognition of their original meaning:

Here’s the headline:

Tory says Wales could go it alone

And here’s the core point of Glyn Davies’ speech:

"I’m firmly opposed to the idea of Wales becoming independent, but I don’t go along with the view that the Welsh economy would collapse if we became independent. There’s a duty for politicians to be honest about their position, and not simply to adopt a particular line because it happens to fall in with their point of view."

"Wales would be a very different country if it was independent – and I think it would be a lesser country and more insular. It’s also clear to me that there is very little support for independence."

See what I mean?

And kind of on the same subject, this from the Plaid Cymru MP, Adam Price:

Wales would probably be independent by 2020, and needed to get used to the idea.

It strikes me as arrogant even by the normal standards of Plaid Cymru, a kind of:

"You lot are going to be independent whether you like it or not"
Not really that important a majority in the Principality having constantly stated they are against such a suicidal option.

And as for this:

"There is more and more support for an English Parliament, for Irish unity in the north and south of the island and for Scottish independence amongst that country’s youth."

OK, here we go once again with some inconvenient statistics for the separatists:

Latest results on the scoreboard:

Scotland: 31% in favour of independence.

N.Ireland: 30% in favour of Irish Unity.

Wales: 22.4% voting for Plaid Cymru.

England: no relevant or applicable data

The facts can be such a bummer sometimes, can’t they?!

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

Or the latest polls which show that a majority of Scots think Scotland will be independent in the next 20 years, and that 61% would consider voting for independence in the future.

A majority of English are for an English Parliament. A majority are even for English independence:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/guardianpolitics/story/0,,1991145,00.html

Facts are such a bummer sometimes...

O'Neill said...

Or the latest polls which show that a majority of Scots think Scotland will be independent in the next 20 years, and that 61% would consider voting for independence in the future.

Do you want to provide a link for that? The poll I quoted (from 10th of August) shows only 31% in favour of independence.

A majority of English are for an English Parliament. A majority are even for English independence:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/guardianpolitics/story/0,,1991145,00.html


Thnak you for the link.
Not surprising that there is dissatisfaction amongst the typical English electorate especially with the Unholy Trinity of Paisley,McGuinness and salmomd taking the piss in such provocative style. But if the demand is there, then I'm sure we'll see the emergence of an English Nationalist Party to take advantage of it...maybe.

Facts are such a bummer sometimes...

We've been dealing in opinion polls which are interesting barometers of opinion...the results at the ballot box are the hard cold truth...in Wales, Scotland and N.Ireland a majority continues to support pro-Union parties. Once that fact changes, then I'll start to worry.