tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008037633121035579.post5607696315177306134..comments2023-10-22T11:57:34.718+01:00Comments on A Pint of Unionist Lite: God supports more devolution?O'Neillhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02531858236570346203noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008037633121035579.post-23907213422653310492008-04-22T12:17:00.000+01:002008-04-22T12:17:00.000+01:00"The vast majority live by the core morals dictate..."The vast majority live by the core morals dictated by at least seven of the Ten Commandments"<BR/><BR/>So the vast majority of people only have 7 moral principles? of course not. While most do abide by some of the commandements, that only forms part of a person's morals. Would you consider the woman's right to vote as a moral issue, or the abolition of slavery? Neither are presentin any form in Hen Ferchetanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05824537681698480500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008037633121035579.post-90766545147040937382008-04-22T10:13:00.000+01:002008-04-22T10:13:00.000+01:00HFEveryone has their own set of morals, and they w...HF<BR/><EM>Everyone has their own set of morals, and they wildly vary from one person to another.</EM><BR/>The vast majority live by the core morals dictated by at least seven of the Ten Commandments- <BR/><BR/><EM>doctor talking publically about non-medical matters or a lawyer discussing non-legal questions</EM><BR/><BR/>Would that doctor or lawyer be listened to in the media merely because theyO'Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531858236570346203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008037633121035579.post-47507796287000808782008-04-20T21:25:00.000+01:002008-04-20T21:25:00.000+01:00"you, I and the vast part of the population will l..."you, I and the vast part of the population will live by exactly the same set of morals (whether we realise it or not), without such a common base then society simply ceases to exist."<BR/><BR/>Well of course not. While laws do evolve from some form of a common set of morals (e.g. murder is wrong, stealing is bad etc) it is ludicrous to say that we all have the same morals.<BR/><BR/>My gran Hen Ferchetanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05824537681698480500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008037633121035579.post-12751883610561956382008-04-20T12:11:00.000+01:002008-04-20T12:11:00.000+01:00HFI don't think we are going to get agreement on t...HF<BR/>I don't think we are going to get agreement on this. IMO a churchman should restrict his public pronouncements to solely religious and matters of conscience. Your second point, yes agree with first part, disagree with second- you, I and the vast part of the population will live by exactly the same set of morals (whether we realise it or not), without such a common base then society simply O'Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531858236570346203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008037633121035579.post-11781043341834094682008-04-19T19:46:00.000+01:002008-04-19T19:46:00.000+01:001. Absolutely, but that has nothing to do with thi...1. Absolutely, but that has nothing to do with this. I believe just as strongly in everyone been allowed to give their opinion. If the Archbishop had any power over law-making I'd be aghast - but he doesn't.<BR/><BR/>2. Only if it could be conclusively shown that the majority wants it (i.e. a referendum). Not giving people the right to be ruled as they desire can be immoral (but since everyone Hen Ferchetanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05824537681698480500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008037633121035579.post-46676887346216883092008-04-19T13:48:00.000+01:002008-04-19T13:48:00.000+01:00Two questions HF:1. Do you believe in the concept ...Two questions HF:<BR/>1. Do you believe in the concept of the secular state?<BR/>2. Is devolution a question of morality, ie if wales doesn't get more devolved powers it will be immoral?O'Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531858236570346203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008037633121035579.post-72883292980135425942008-04-17T22:49:00.000+01:002008-04-17T22:49:00.000+01:00So a man of God isn't allowed to speak his mind on...So a man of God isn't allowed to speak his mind on non-religious issues?<BR/><BR/>I can't speak for the Archbishop but things like devolution is much more important to me than pointless things like Religion.Hen Ferchetanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05824537681698480500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008037633121035579.post-38667120522870246342008-04-17T18:50:00.000+01:002008-04-17T18:50:00.000+01:00He's allegedly a man of God, not some two bob pub ...He's allegedly a man of God, not some two bob pub commentator- but that's not the main gripe on this occasion, it's more his introduction of "morality" into the devolution debate.O'Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531858236570346203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008037633121035579.post-51334741003013652342008-04-16T23:07:00.000+01:002008-04-16T23:07:00.000+01:00The man has a right to give his opinion-or are we ...The man has a right to give his opinion-or are we now saying that people with powerful positions are not allowed free speech?Hen Ferchetanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05824537681698480500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008037633121035579.post-82107646899494984952008-04-12T22:19:00.000+01:002008-04-12T22:19:00.000+01:00In your opinion is the devolving of more powers to...In your opinion is the devolving of more powers to the Welsh "government" a question of morality?O'Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531858236570346203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008037633121035579.post-70686908365299735932008-04-12T20:57:00.000+01:002008-04-12T20:57:00.000+01:00speaking from a welsh perspective the reason the A...speaking from a welsh perspective the reason the Archbishop makes these comments is because we have no politicians with b***s who are willing to discuss the devolution issues in public they're all to scared to rock the boat for their masters in London.<BR/><BR/>In my opinion its hardly good for a so called western democracy to have a man of God being one of the only ones speaking up on this issueAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008037633121035579.post-81036309054107824202008-04-12T14:29:00.000+01:002008-04-12T14:29:00.000+01:00In it he declared the Scottish Parliament the work...<EM>In it he declared the Scottish Parliament the work of Satan and compared to the snake in the garden of Eden.</EM><BR/><BR/>And 7 years on there's Willie's line-manager cuddling up to Satan's messenger on earth;)<BR/><BR/>What bothers me most about this outburst from the Archbishop is the blasphemy that somehow devolution is matter of morality upon which he, due to his position, feels fit to O'Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531858236570346203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6008037633121035579.post-77093371782456003382008-04-11T14:54:00.000+01:002008-04-11T14:54:00.000+01:00If you ring certain organisations based in Norther...If you ring certain organisations based in Northern Ireland there are those who will tell you that God supports unionism. Thats because God is apparently a Protestant, Britain is the only Protestant country in the world (ignoring the Scandanavian states, Netherlands, half of Germany and Switzerland etc) and will save the world from the Papacy (ring Moscow and Athens chums).<BR/><BR/>Back in 2001Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com